Tag Archives: Brehon law

Stateless Societies

In this program I define the state and contrast stateless and statist societies. The critical difference is that stateless societies do not have the corporate institution of government.

There are various examples of stateless societies such as medieval Ireland, modern day Somalia* and more ancient cultures such as the aboriginal peoples of the USA.

*Somalia’s so called government is being funded by Norway

Some of my previous programs deal with these topics separately:

“Anarchy? What Happens?” talks about common law traditions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Ne_c6Oe-g

“Breaking The Corporate Matrix” links together various threads of the state
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9-iGDXnOJk

“Turings Apology” touches on some consequences of the lack objectivity in law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGj5749Ks64

“The Concept of Law” examines what we mean by law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_R5_EefMhQ

See also:

Mike Shanklin, “In Your Anarchist Society, Who Will Make The Laws?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7uUPDrcamE

Ancient Ireland’s success with the free market and a stateless society
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su9OqvBbSD0

A page about The Brehon Laws
http://www.alia.ie/tirnanog/sochis/iv.html

A Smaller Social History of Ancient Ireland
http://ia600406.us.archive.org/12/items/smallersocialhis00joycuoft/smallersocialhis00joycuoft.pdf

Empire Law

In this program I go back in history to discover why we have no objective definition of crime.

Governments in many countries originate from military dictatorships, in others newer states that arose were modeled on established states. This has resulted in legal systems with a double tradition, one in common law and one in martial law.

*When I say these societies were “egalitarian”, this is meant only with respect to whom the law applied. Their “kings” were not above the law as they are in other legal systems where, for example, legal privilege such as “crown immunity” occurs.

Some of my previous programs deal with these topics separately:

“Anarchy? What Happens?” talks about common law traditions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Ne_c6Oe-g

“Breaking The Corporate Matrix” links together various threads of the state
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9-iGDXnOJk

“Turings Apology” touches on some consequences of the lack objectivity in law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGj5749Ks64

“The Concept of Law” examines what we mean by law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_R5_EefMhQ

See also:

Mike Shanklin, “In Your Anarchist Society, Who Will Make The Laws?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7uUPDrcamE

A moving compilation by Mike Shanklin, “Freedom Rising”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNRN7oPb5aA

Ancient Ireland’s success with the free market and a stateless society
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su9OqvBbSD0

A page about The Brehon Laws
http://www.alia.ie/tirnanog/sochis/iv.html
You will see that these Celtic tribal societies had private property, although much was also held in common and that they had a hierarchical society with Kings and chieftains. Although these upper classes enjoyed (and abused) many privileges, “making law” was not one of them. Where money was owed to them, it was in the form of rent and not as “tax”. Government as a corporate legal fiction with sovereign immunity did not exist and therefore they had no state. These are not mere semantic distinctions, rulers such as we know them did not exist.

Anarchy? What Happens?

In this program explore the false claim that a society without a power elites legal system is without law.

I show that a society that accepts the power elites legal system is a lawless society where extortion, theft and murder are permitted when the privileged classes engage in them.

I also contrast effective private systems of law to the state monopoly of law.

more about Brehon law:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su9OqvBbSD0
http://www.courts.ie/Courts.ie/library3.nsf/pagecurrent/3CBAE4FE856E917B80256DF800494ED9

more about Xeer law:
http://mises.org/daily/2701

Mike Shanklin, “In Your Anarchist Society, Who Will Make The Laws?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7uUPDrcamE

A Smaller Social History of Ancient Ireland
http://ia600406.us.archive.org/12/items/smallersocialhis00joycuoft/smallersocialhis00joycuoft.pdf
This book describes the civic society of ancient Ireland. Kings and other nobles helped to administer but did not make law, rather they were subject to law. “Irish kings were not despotic : they were all, from the supreme monarch down to the king of the tuath, in every sense, limited monarchs ; they were subject to law like their own free subjects.” p.25